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Nar Shaddaa first reactions at Admiral Vise death announce

November 27, 2011

Reporters of Galactic News went in Nar Shaddaa collecting the reaction after the announcement of the death of the Admiral Vice.

Jarell Xaris, Shaka and Baby Girl in Nar Shaddaa

Nar Shaddaa is still under the emotion after the announcement of the execution of the Admiral Vice. Formerly known as Wiseman, officer of the Grand Army of the Republic (GAR), he deserted and placed his new unit, the Renegade Fleet at the service of the Hutt. He was captured by the GAR during a humanitarian mission in Tython and they announced his execution a few time after.

While the news of his death was not yet known, Hutt agents, Tanya Kyrie, Shan Le’Sanit and Baby girl met in emergency the New Republic Chancellor Baccus Altus in Coruscant. However, very little filtered of this meeting yet.

The agents Baby Girl and Morrigan finally returned to Bakura. They negotiated with the GAR officers for they return the corpse and they finally went back in Nar Shaddaa with an urn of ashes.

The Republic senator of Tython, Nasaji Oba, will request for compensations and will ensure justice is done after the next Senate session. She also requested the Hutt stop their humanitarian aid in Tython to avoid uncontrolled incidents.

People of Nar Shaddaa counter the Republic’s beliefs Hutt would be greedy and uncivilized against itself. They expect justice will be done. Although nothing is yet finalized; the Hutt will meet in the next few day to define a line of conduct in this case.

— Daana Kira, Rakiko Lowtide

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  1. November 27, 2011 at 7:28 PM

    A lot of people gave me flack for criticizing Republic Jedi, GAR, or any other forces of the Republic who acted without any plan, communication with elected officials, or otherwise acted in an anarchic manner. They couldn’t seem to understand why I’d do that. Some of them even accused me of treason. As if pointing out the painfully obvious is treasonous.

    THIS is why I spoke out. The Hutt Council is facing rioting over this. How can they continue with humanitarian aid to Tython? Because of the heavy-handed actions of a few military elitists, the people Republic forces are sworn to protect lost something they needed. Now someone else will have to take up the slack.

    More to come on this after the next Senate meeting.

    • Sha'ira
      November 28, 2011 at 6:05 AM

      Strange you assume Republic forces acted without plan or communication with elected officials. Regardless the reason people such as yourself remain out of the loop is because ‘elected officials’ seem to try and use the Jedi as well as the GAR as their own personal military ordering them to attack whenever and wherever suits them. Perhaps you didn’t know it was a Tython official, governor I believe that pressed for the arrest of the terrorist that proceeded to bomb Tython had she been arrested. The GAR suggested otherwise but decided to go along with this ‘elected official’. The woman was arrested and Tython was bombed. GAR in turn immediately sent relief supplies to Tython. Had Tython’s politicians not acted so hasty you wouldn’t be in this situation to begin with. The term “Pot calling the kettle black” would be most appropriate here.

      • Xan Qenadius
        November 28, 2011 at 9:18 AM

        So let’s get this straight….the Republic and it’s senators, and it’s “jedi” now want to toss insults at the other group and not look at their own role.

        This would be funny if this wasn’t so bloody sad…and predicted.

        Senator Oba, the fact is Tython wouldn’t have needed Hutt aid if they didn’t take decisive action to hunt,try AND execute this terrorist and ferret out any possible remaining cells of terrorist activity after the first attacks took place. Not killing a representative of the Hutt Council,which is a goverment….although not seen as one clearly but the Republic. That is on,your hands….you are just as guilty as the soldier that took the action,cause you have the “constitutional” ability to prevent such actions, as you are the elected official for the planet.

        Sha’ira….you want to call the pot calling the kettle black? Do you not align your beliefs of that of the GLA? The organization that right now is conducting a campaign to “liberate” Uvena Prime, which is still considered by the Hutt Council, Hutt Space? Your actions are in the Hutt minds as terroristic as that of what had occurred on Tython to the population there, and note…the Admiral was there on a mission of aid. He did not come to fight GAR or others. Perhaps next time you are quick to jump into pot calling contests, look at the black soot on yourself first.

        I’ve been accused of being a “dark Sider” for pointing this out time and again….maybe now you’ll actually listen.

        But I doubt it strongly.

      • November 28, 2011 at 4:01 PM

        “Strange you assume Republic forces acted without plan or communication with elected officials. ”

        This isn’t mere assumption. After the incident, the Chancellor and I visited Bakura to see what the Hell was going on. I heard some very interesting things from ARC Trooper Wraith and his cohorts:

        1. According to him, the GAR can do whatever it wants without consulting anybody or being accountable to anyone but their own commander. No, I’m not joking.

        2. The GAR does not have to keep a line of communication open with the Senate or share intelligence with them.

        3. They told us that they act “for the people”. I found that strange because how exactly are the people (of Tython, for example) supposed to hold them accountable for the loss of aid as well as the loss of increased economic revenoue? Shaka the Hutt was going to start operations there. Because Republic law forbids slavery, this meant Shaka was going to have to hire local Tython citizens and pay them wages and benefits in accordance with Tythonian law. Poof! That is probably vanished in a puff of smoke right now.

  2. Morrigan Wemyss
    November 28, 2011 at 8:05 AM

    It seems to me that the republic has proven once again it is not able to keep its word. Marshal law or when a government asks for aide, it is assumed they will take with out arresting members of the government they asked for aide from. Perhaps I am just silly that way. And while the return of the ashes was a good step, it does not make every thing okay. I am sure the republic officals will be recieving communications soon, stating what steps they will take. Or will be taking if they would like to avoid further problems.

  3. Baby Girl
    November 28, 2011 at 11:56 AM

    Sha’ira :
    Strange you assume Republic forces acted without plan or communication with elected officials…

    A group of Hutt agents lead by the Jiramma Majordomo did meet with the Republic Chancelor on Coriscant shortly after the exicution of Admiral Vice and were informed by the Chancelor that GAR acted without his knowledge or consent. Marshal law = Anarchy = Chaos

    • Sha'ira
      November 28, 2011 at 10:26 PM

      One situation does not mean that is the case 100% of the time. I have been rescued by Republic Forces while I was held on Ziost. This is the situation I refer to. GAR has helped the jedi many times in rescue operations only to be badmouthed by Senators because they didn’t know before hand. I and many others have been grateful for their help in the defense of republic worlds. I hardly care what a politician who thinks little of the people that bail their asses out on a regular has to say about an mission.

  4. November 28, 2011 at 4:08 PM

    Xan Qenadius :

    Senator Oba, the fact is Tython wouldn’t have needed Hutt aid if they didn’t take decisive action to hunt,try AND execute this terrorist and ferret out any possible remaining cells of terrorist activity after the first attacks took place. Not killing a representative of the Hutt Council,which is a goverment….although not seen as one clearly but the Republic. That is on,your hands….you are just as guilty as the soldier that took the action,cause you have the “constitutional” ability to prevent such actions, as you are the elected official for the planet.

    As I said above Xan, according to ARC Trooper Wraith, he seems to think that we have zero authority to prevent them from doing anything they want. Which is why the Senate is going to be talking long and hard about their attitudes and the crisis it presents. Tell me, what would you have us do in such a situation, Xan?

    • Xan Qenadius
      November 28, 2011 at 8:40 PM

      Declare GAR an enemy to the Republic and cut off their funding and remove them from the position of influence they have in the Republic, replace them with competent soldiers that listen to the elected officials they claim to serve and then and maybe then Republic will not be seen as so much of a joke.

      Will this happen, no.

      GAR does what it wants cause no one does anything to stop them…making the Republic and GAR both look like jokes.

      • November 29, 2011 at 5:02 PM

        Xan Qenadius :
        Declare GAR an enemy to the Republic and cut off their funding and remove them from the position of influence they have in the Republic, replace them with competent soldiers that listen to the elected officials they claim to serve and then and maybe then Republic will not be seen as so much of a joke.
        Will this happen, no.
        GAR does what it wants cause no one does anything to stop them…making the Republic and GAR both look like jokes.

        Actually Xan, I was mulling similar ideas over. That and trying to get the Senate to vote on a replacement force.

    • Sha'ira
      November 28, 2011 at 10:39 PM

      GAR has been at the forefront of every battle the republic has been in. When I was in the Dantooine Jedi Enclave we shed the same blood in the same mud in defense of placing like Tython, Yavin 4, Dantooine, Coruscant, Bakura etc only to have the efforts pushed aside by senators and governors who feel a particular course of action they didn’t agree with. You dont choose to try and understand you simply wish to control the GAR to do as you please. GAR has worked with every single Jedi order at some point and always did their duty. It is strange though the past political officials of Tython such as Obie Solo had negative things to say about GAR calling them traitors to the Republic along with DJE and OJO meanwhile GAR, DJE and OJO showed up in force without question to help defend their planet from Darth Marell. So in understanding that you can see why upon hearing yet another member of the Tython political scene once again bad mouth the very group that has fought tooth and nail for the republic can be a bit irritating.

      • Xan Qenadius
        November 28, 2011 at 11:06 PM

        GAR is not an arms group for the Jedi nor should it be. Nor should it be used to prop up other orders of Jedi unless the SENATE chooses to send them in. That is the role of a Republican army Sha’ira.

        But then again, what does a terrorist know about actual prudence and proceedure?

        GAR has CHOSEN to be at the forefront of these conflicts cause they want to be seen as the only effective arm of the Republic…but with numerous tales of corruption, strong-armed behaviours and now this murder…not execution but murder of a Hutt official. they are not an army that chooses to represent the aims of the Republic, they are a para-military group given legitimacy because no action is taken to actually bring them into the proper role they are supposed to be serving.

        I dislike Obie Solo, and feel her own goals for this NRGF were no more stable then the role the GAR plays. Her way was not the answer, but an actual Senate issued and controlled army for the Republic would be the answer. NRGF is not it, nor is GAR.

        Just like an and the and the GLA is nothing but terrio

      • November 29, 2011 at 5:16 PM

        Sha’ira :
        GAR has been at the forefront of every battle the republic has been in. When I was in the Dantooine Jedi Enclave we shed the same blood in the same mud in defense of placing like Tython, Yavin 4, Dantooine, Coruscant, Bakura etc only to have the efforts pushed aside by senators and governors who feel a particular course of action they didn’t agree with. You dont choose to try and understand you simply wish to control the GAR to do as you please. GAR has worked with every single Jedi order at some point and always did their duty. It is strange though the past political officials of Tython such as Obie Solo had negative things to say about GAR calling them traitors to the Republic along with DJE and OJO meanwhile GAR, DJE and OJO showed up in force without question to help defend their planet from Darth Marell. So in understanding that you can see why upon hearing yet another member of the Tython political scene once again bad mouth the very group that has fought tooth and nail for the republic can be a bit irritating.

        Yes, I know they fight courageously. That is not the issue.

        It doesn’t matter how well they fight, if they’re not accountable to those the citizenry elect…then they’re not accountable to those citizens! They’re not fighting for the Republic really. They’re fighting for their own agenda.

        We Senators are held accountable to the people on election day. If evidence of corruption or treason surfaces, we can also be held accountable in a court of law with a jury selected from the citizenry. The people. This is the way representative democracies work. NOBODY has full sway to do what they want. Not Senators. Not Chancellors. And not military forces.

        You live in a democratic republic. I find it strange that you seem to have so much contempt for democracy. Maybe you’d be more at home in a military dictatorship presided over by the GAR and DJO?

  5. Sha'ira
    November 28, 2011 at 10:23 PM

    Xan Qenadius :
    So let’s get this straight….the Republic and it’s senators, and it’s “jedi” now want to toss insults at the other group and not look at their own role.
    This would be funny if this wasn’t so bloody sad…and predicted.
    Senator Oba, the fact is Tython wouldn’t have needed Hutt aid if they didn’t take decisive action to hunt,try AND execute this terrorist and ferret out any possible remaining cells of terrorist activity after the first attacks took place. Not killing a representative of the Hutt Council,which is a goverment….although not seen as one clearly but the Republic. That is on,your hands….you are just as guilty as the soldier that took the action,cause you have the “constitutional” ability to prevent such actions, as you are the elected official for the planet.
    Sha’ira….you want to call the pot calling the kettle black? Do you not align your beliefs of that of the GLA? The organization that right now is conducting a campaign to “liberate” Uvena Prime, which is still considered by the Hutt Council, Hutt Space? Your actions are in the Hutt minds as terroristic as that of what had occurred on Tython to the population there, and note…the Admiral was there on a mission of aid. He did not come to fight GAR or others. Perhaps next time you are quick to jump into pot calling contests, look at the black soot on yourself first.
    I’ve been accused of being a “dark Sider” for pointing this out time and again….maybe now you’ll actually listen.
    But I doubt it strongly.

    Xan first off I dont care if you are a “dark sider” that is meaningless to me. And as for the Hutts I’m well aware how my actions are to be perceived by the Hutt Council. If they have some sort of issue they can take it up with me. I came to Uvena to help people I saw become slaves, get murdered with no other reason that “because they were weak”. The Armada choose to attack me when they found out I was a Jedi so naturally i sided with those who are against them. Perhaps if the Armada weren’t completely oppressing the native population the planet wouldn’t need to be “Liberated”

  6. Xan Qenadius
    November 28, 2011 at 10:52 PM

    The Armada is doing what the Hutts want them to do on Uvena. That needs to sink in.

    You are basically saying, “I’m choosing to start a war and exacerbate tensions in the galaxy,cause I don’t like how the Hutts choose to oversee this planet.”

    A justification for terrorism…..and Jedi aren’t terrorists.

    Do you have to like everything that goes on in the galaxy. Hell no, but when you decide to act in violation to your supposed Jedi beliefs cause you think that you are “justified” in your actions, you become the very thing you claim to oppose.

    As a result, the GLA is a terrorist faction, not a Jedi group….the only legitimacy it gets is from the Republic, but as we have seen the Republic is a group of hypocritical, ineffective cowards that don’t actually wish to stabilize their own worlds and hierarchy before taking on other challenges. So why should the rest of the galaxy care when they see this justification for terrorism and this ineffectualness on constant display?

    Senator Oba, at least is genuine in the fact she’s befuddled by what is occurring. But till others actually listen to her, she unfortunately is a marginal voice in the maelstrom of idiocy that comes from the Republic these days.

    You Sha’ira, like your colleagues ARE terrorists, and should be subject to the same laws that I suggested to the Senator in dealing with the Tython terrorist and the GAR. You deserve to be tried and executed for interfering in a culture that is fundamentally different to yours,but has a larger role to galactic stability. The Jedi way of peace IS that stability, not justifications of your own actions.

    Like i said…look at the black soot on yourself before you choose to make yourself even more of a fool by calling out others, clearly you refuse. Cause justification is not honest introspection.

    • Sha'ira
      November 28, 2011 at 11:20 PM

      I never justified anything and if thats what you think then so be it. I never said “Im 100% right and they are 100% wrong” I said I’m helping the natives of Uvena Prime because I believe they require it. They are no “Our cause is 100% right no matter what anyone says” that is all a matter of opinion. My opinion is that the Armada is are a very bad group for the galaxy and in their and your minds I am the same. You know what? That is alright because at the end of the day they will do what they feel is right, just as you will and I will. I know you have fought in many battles defending the Republic but I know you have shed away from the Republic in recent years for your own personal reasons. I’m done listening to politicians speak ill of the people who stick their neck out for them on a daily basis. They seem to think they know whats best so they can go fight their own kriffing battles..

  7. Sha'ira
    November 28, 2011 at 11:29 PM

    Xan Qenadius :
    GAR is not an arms group for the Jedi nor should it be. Nor should it be used to prop up other orders of Jedi unless the SENATE chooses to send them in. That is the role of a Republican army Sha’ira.
    But then again, what does a terrorist know about actual prudence and proceedure?
    GAR has CHOSEN to be at the forefront of these conflicts cause they want to be seen as the only effective arm of the Republic…but with numerous tales of corruption, strong-armed behaviours and now this murder…not execution but murder of a Hutt official. they are not an army that chooses to represent the aims of the Republic, they are a para-military group given legitimacy because no action is taken to actually bring them into the proper role they are supposed to be serving.
    I dislike Obie Solo, and feel her own goals for this NRGF were no more stable then the role the GAR plays. Her way was not the answer, but an actual Senate issued and controlled army for the Republic would be the answer. NRGF is not it, nor is GAR.
    Just like an and the and the GLA is nothing but terrio

    GAR has Chosen to be at the forefront because they want to be seen as the only effective arm? That is incorrect and a spit int he face at those who gave their lives defending the republic. So what you are saying is that GAR should stay out of any and all conflicts that deal with the republic? It seems the Republic cant win at anything. If they sit back on their planets and do nothing they are called lazy and that they dont care about anyone other than themselves. When they take a proactive approach they are once again called selfish and warmongers. What do you purpose the Republic do Xan?

    • Xan Qenadius
      November 29, 2011 at 12:21 AM

      First, elections for ALL senators in the Republic,rather then appointments. Something which has been done numerous times in the past especially by Yavin and it’s Jedi order. Which in the case of a democracy is fundamentally un-democratic.

      Second, disavowing groups such as GAR,GLA and other groups that choose to run with their own agendas from association to the Republic and hold trials for members of these groups that are fair and balanced but send the message “this is not how the Republic works.”

      Thirdly, bringing the Jedi back into the role they are supposed to be serving as advisers and peacekeepers,not electors and a wing of the military.

      Fourth, elections for a new Supreme Chancellor. Someone needs to be an actual voice to the galaxy that really promotes the values of the Republic. This one promotes the views of the very thing the Republic is said to stand against.

      Fifth, an actual Senate initiated and controlled army that serves the needs of the Republic and not those of the Jedi or others. One that is firmly in the hands of the Senate and the Supreme Chancellor to send into a crisis or withdraw. Not a para-military wing or terrorists,nor overstretching the means of the Jedi that serve the Republic.

      Sixth, a separate,non-military wing for intelligence gathering and disseminating needs to be created. Beholden only to the Senate and the Supreme Chancellor. Clearly a lack of intelligence and disseminating has led to recent events and also could be of benefit for future events,preventing conflicts or dealing with conflicts in the most efficient way possible.

      Seventh, members of the GAR and GLA to be arrested and extradited to the Hutt Council for trials on current issues. No interference either after extradition to the Hutts in lieu of recent events. This would prove some actual honesty for a change.

      Those are just the start of things for the Republic and even after all these suggestions would be implemented, they would have to continue to act in accord to the beliefs they claim to profess and act accordingly before others will begin to trust them. And also the suggestions are only the most glaring areas that require work. Economic ties, alliances, security…these and many other issues would be in the hands of the Senate to deal with.

      • Sha'ira
        November 29, 2011 at 12:49 AM

        So you would disband and arrest those who currently fight for the republic? Groups that take an active role in countering internal and external threats to republic worlds? If the GAR, GLA and other groups you believe are unworthy of defending the republic are declared enemies of the republic, who’s left to defend it? You? Jedi Orders are not to obey some senate without question and it seems once they do are simply labeled as traitors. They will do what they must as they always have been. Should they be arrested and their orders disbanded as well? Maybe you should run for Senator and make it happen if you feel so strongly for it.

  8. Zach Rodchester
    November 28, 2011 at 11:51 PM

    Detractors of the republic will always find something to gripe about just look at the recent terrorist incident with that settler from tython. We were told we didn’t care about our people and were lazy etc when we didn’t catch the terrorist fast enough and/or prevented the attack in the first place but when we try to premtively protect our citzens we get called tyrants and dictators. for declaring martial law and adding strict security procedures

    • Morrigan Wemyss
      November 29, 2011 at 8:46 AM

      Thats because that is how the republic is behaving. It has little with what you do in your own systems persay. But you can not arrest agents of other governments and expect them to take it simply because you are the republic. If that were the case, I could simply drag any one of the republic citizens I have come across in Hutt space and arrest them for any reason I like. Of course when their colleges come to secure their release I would inform them its for the personal safety of our people. I dare say you would not be thrilled should anything like that take place, and rightfully so.

  9. Xan Qenadius
    November 29, 2011 at 1:13 AM

    Sha’ira :
    So you would disband and arrest those who currently fight for the republic? Groups that take an active role in countering internal and external threats to republic worlds? If the GAR, GLA and other groups you believe are unworthy of defending the republic are declared enemies of the republic, who’s left to defend it? You? Jedi Orders are not to obey some senate without question and it seems once they do are simply labeled as traitors. They will do what they must as they always have been. Should they be arrested and their orders disbanded as well? Maybe you should run for Senator and make it happen if you feel so strongly for it.

    GAR and GLA do NOT fight for the Republic…they fight for their own aims and thus need to bee disavowed and prosecuted. So Yes, I’m serious in saying these groups need to be disbanded.

    Second, if you did not pay attention to what I said about initiating a Senate controlled military then read again. That would be the group to defend the republic, with Jedi assisting if there is a need to do so. Hopefully though, the Jedi will not have to be stretched thin and go back to to roles as advisers and peacekeepers only. The Jedi have NEVER been a military organization, nor should they act as one.

    Would I come back to help the Republic should those issues I highlighted be implemented? Yes, but I’d act as an adviser or peacekeeper or possibly intelligence gathering and disseminator, not a military role,nor asking or wanting elected office.

    I feel strongly about it cause I left the Republic over failures such as these currently going on. Nor do I serve the Hutts, as been falsely insinuated in the past. I act as an independent agent now and such are able to see these failures on a galactic level better cause I’m exposed to more then one set of information to draw conclusions from. I wish no elected role nor military role, nor want to see Jedi acting like Sith, nor Republicans acting like tyrants.

    It’s rather amazing to see the backlash when these points get said over the holonet,where the rest of the galaxy picks them up,slaps on their own spin and refuses to see the points actually being made.I’ve been vocally critical of other groups then just Jedi and the Republic in the past. I’m as critical of the Sith,the Mandalorians,the Hutts and other groups.

    The Republic and the Jedi are supposed to be in a position to actually listen,respond and correct issues…..which is why I suggested that plan as layed out.

    • Sha'ira
      November 29, 2011 at 1:52 AM

      Xan if you truly believe GAR and GLA do not fight for the Republic than perhaps you far gone than even I previously thought. Not every organization or group can do everything right but to simply wash away all of the times they fought to defend the Republic and then turn around and claim they are out for their own agenda and dont even care for the Republic they layed their live down for is insane. If you want large change than run for office or try to be an adviser on a world that favors your views like Tython. Then maybe you will get what you want.

  10. Xan Qenadius
    November 29, 2011 at 2:41 AM

    Of course you’d say that…you are a member of the GLA,and as such choose to, as I’ve said spin things your way and not really look at the points addressed.

    Of course you’d defend the GLA, your are associated with the terrorists and as such are one. So naturally,you’d defend GAR cause you see similar ways of acting, similar justifications being used and you would naturally gravitate to those kinds of lies.

    You also jump on to the bandwagon of “let’s attack the person saying these things, rather then looking at the points made.” cause like I said, you are thus indoctrinated by these lies.

    You choose to interfere in a culture that does things completely differently to the one you choose to support and you think by your interference you are doing good, when all the while you create instability and hostility for the sake of your views,which is in direct opposition to the code you claim to profess,the GLA supposedly being a Jedi Order.

    You have become a hypocrite in the same way most of the Republic is a hypocritical government. You suppose cause you have “the moral right” this makes you above the laws that you find yourself in and even your own religious and philosophical training dictates cause the “moral right” always dictates what IS right.

    The galaxy does not work that way, nor do opposing cultures. If you actually studied the archives, you’d find slavery is as common and thought of as moral to the Hutts as the opposition to it is in Republic space.

    You get on a bandwagon and rant and rail about Sith abuses but when you do the same type of action to another culture, you immediately become the voice of morality and decency?

    Odd….isn’t that exactly what Sith leaders have done in the past in galactic history?

    Far gone? No….just actually observant to history and the way it tends to repeat. and also aware of what is highly hypocritical and do my best to avoid such things.

    You rant about dark side and Sith and “oppression” and yet do the EXACT same thing and claim you are justified by what you do.

    You are way more dark in intent….cause you fail to look past, or remove your blinders.

  11. November 29, 2011 at 5:03 AM

    I’d just like to point out that the current incarnation of the Grand Army of the Republic is aligned to the New Republic. The GAR is self-funded, self-functioning, and is lead and controlled by the Clone Council. Just because its armies aid the Republic and such does not mean it ever formally or informally granted control of its functions to the Senate. You can’t reprimand something which legally is not yours. GAR is, however, the Republic’s only true defense. So trying to cut ties with them and replace them like has been attempted in the past is highly unwise. The Republic is in quite a predicament. I believe GAR has existed long before the current New Republic government as well. If anything, you merely built your government around an already existing militia of Republic Space, and just assumed you controlled them. This isn’t technically the case, as I’ve already pointed out. As Wraith said, they can do whatever they like when it comes to how they function. Honor keeps them from doing so and running amok. Trust me when I say that despite controversy regarding the organization, it’s not anywhere near running amok.

  12. Xan Qenadius
    November 29, 2011 at 5:25 AM

    Then GAR has to be either:

    Number one: Cut off from it’s funding sources. If they can fund themselves, then such funding needs to actually placed in responsible hands.

    Number two: Forced to relinquish it self-autonomy if they wish to operate. Clearly the decisions they make are not truly in the hands of the Republic and that needs to change.

    Or the following should occur :

    De-legitimization from any event the GAR chooses to operate on as representing anything but themselves. Which is clearly the case, and given most galactic sentiment….would just continue to portray GAR as they’ve been doing themselves. A para-military group allowed to run amok. Which they are, since they do NOT need to listen. They should be made to.

    Tough, if GAR wants to serve. They do so with the actual restraint that is needed. This action is not honorable, their tone in flaunting this autonomy, (rather like your flaunting of upsetting security within the Republic yourself) they have is not only disrespectful to the government they claim to report but entirely foolish and should be forced away from them. Since they clearly don’t know any better.

    If the Republic wants to actually get serious…it needs to ACT serious.

  13. Xan Qenadius
    November 29, 2011 at 5:26 AM

    ((claim to support…bad bad typo there))

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