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Karatos Plague Spreads Throughout the Galaxy

May 3, 2013

GNN reporter Xera D’Ukal reports from around the Galaxy the latest crisis.

The GNN Headquarters in Iziz now stands empty, the entire city seemingly deserted after a massive quarantine and evacuation due to a deadly virus which struck the planet hard and fast.  A team of scientists from the corporate giant known as Adascorp aided the planet in discovering the identity of the virus, which is now conformed to be the Karatos Plague.  The Karatos Plague was a deadly viral infection that originates from the planet Concord Dawn. Traveling in spores, the virus relentlessly attacks the internal chemistry of its host. Blindness occurs in forty minutes, followed by brain death within an hour. Mandalorians vaccinated against the virus as children, so the aggressiveness of this virus is mostly experienced only by offworlders, when Mandalorians carry the virus to their worlds.

A deserted Iziz

The Karatos Plague on Onderon was indeed to discovered to be carried to the planet by the Mandalorians, due to their close contact throughout the years.  In an interview with the Queen of Onderon, she very diligently states that she knows the Mandalorians did not bring them the plague on purpose, and that the Mandalorians have agreed to ship them the cure and vaccines immediately, providing it is Mandalorian medical personnel who administers the relief of the disease.  Adascorp and its team of scientists, lead by Dr. Elektra, have formulated a compound that has slowed down the effects of the virus and prevented many people still on the surface from death until the cure arrives, which could take some time due to the bulk of the Mandalorian fleet being in orbit around Mirial.

Queen of Onderon on her Flagship

In an interview with the Queen of Onderon, she expressed much worry for the safety of her people, and a deep sadness for those lives lost as a result of this ordeal.  She does not bear any ill will against the Mandalorians, but simply hopes the cure reaches Onderon as fast as possible.  There has been much structural damage done to Iziz as a result of rioting of those left behind.  Fires have been started and the entire city is coated by a thick white smoke mixed with the humidity of the atmosphere.  The Queen says that once it is safe to return to the planet’s surface, the city will once again be rebuilt.  Once again because the first time, the city was destroyed by a group of Jedi turned Sith who had once ruled the planet until the rightful monarch liberated Iziz.  The Queen stated she is saddened that the city must be rebult yet again but said they were better prepared for any disaster that came their way than the last time, and the entire process should go much smoother.

Prime Minister Zannah Lorso of Mirial

Soon after departing Onderon, this reporter travelled to Mirial, to catch up update on the war going on there, only to find that the Karatos Plague has spread there as well.  Thousands have already died in the invasion by the Mandalorians, despite Jedi Master Torok’s and Jedi Master Marsh Solo’s best efforts to defend the planet.  Now that the plague has hit thousands more have died.  Prime Minister Zannah Lorso expressed a deep resentment for the Mandalorians, calling them “butchers and rapists” during the attack on her planet.

Prime Minister Lorso Surrenders to the Mandalorians

Prime Minister Lorso was forced to meet with the Mandalorians on their fleet in orbit around Mirial, pleading with them for a cure since the virus plaguing her people was found to be Karatos Plague.  The Mandalorians would only give the Mirialans the cure if they surrendered the planet to them, to which she angrily agreed.  Mandalore A’denla Kad promised her that no more of her people would be harmed, and that the planet would now be under Mandalorian protection and be allowed to continue as it always has, but under Mandalorian rule.  Prime Minister Lorso would be allowed to continue to hold her office, but now would be forced to answer to the Mandalorians who now rule the government.

Will this plague continue to spread from planet to planet wherever the Mandalorians travel?  What steps is your government taking to prevent such an occurrence from happening to your planet?  Will the Mandalorians take steps to contain this plague, or weaponize it as has been done in the past, and use it to force planets to surrender to their will?  Stay tuned to GNN for updates on this deadly virus, where your own safety is now at risk.

– Xera D’Ukal GNN News Reporting

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  1. Thull Kandosii
    May 3, 2013 at 4:21 PM

    Mand’alor knows how to make use of a strategic opportunity. Oya Manda.

  2. Darth Periculosa
    May 4, 2013 at 1:44 AM

    Infect a planet and then offer the cure in exchange for subjugation.
    That is an interesting tactic for the Mandalorians…

    • Protector Commander Brave
      May 4, 2013 at 3:15 PM

      If you projected any more with that statement, Sith? You’d be a holo-movie theater

  3. Monarch Arbitras Rexsus II
    May 4, 2013 at 9:12 AM

    “I am not one to judge or be breath taken by such but.. I just noticed this Zannah Lorso is rather scantly clothed yet alone bearing no top clothing or is she wearing just a tight suit ? Either ,way is such uniform normal for a Prime Minister for any planet to wear or is this some way to sway the Mandalorians to be Hypnotized by her bosoms so they can provide a cure?”

    • silasnalfien
      May 11, 2013 at 11:47 AM

      Please, if Mandalorians could be defeated by nude or nearly nude women the Sith Empire would’ve crushed us long ago. There’s not enough cloth between their females’ outfits combined to cover a Jawa.

  4. confused mandalorian
    May 6, 2013 at 6:38 AM

    I cant say I find this to be a very honorable way of conducting war. Resorting the enemy to surrender by using a convenient spread of the plague? Its pretty much chemical warfare and for a warrior and honor based society like ourselves, unbefitting of it. would it really be too difficult to have a third party spread the cure and vaccines while a cease fire is in place? Or has our mandalore turned into a dishonored di’kutla death watch that has to rely on tactics our ancestors used during the Mandalorian wars? Or is he trying to undo 4000 years of progress and indeed just a death watch.

    I would be happy to use my real name but it seems criticism of the mandalore is seen as violating the resol’nare even if you do heed the call.

    – A lowly ve’verd.

  5. May 6, 2013 at 7:51 AM

    In war, victory is the honor. The Mand’alor saw an opportunity and seized it. The Prime Minister was stubborn, and seemed more concerned over her reputation than her own people’s lives. She did not want to be the “leader that surrendered” to the Mandalorians, so she allowed the war to go on, causing thousands upon thousands of deaths. The plague seemed the only way she was willing, because she did not wish to be known as the “leader who refused the cure” and killed off the population. A selfish act on her part, but the Mand’alor prevented thousands more deaths in using this against her. Personal honor is one thing, but war is war and if you conduct it while worrying too much about honor, you will lose. Clearly this is a subject you know nothing of. If a mandalorian strikes at a planet, do you think that planet would hesitate to wipe them all out by whatever means necessary in order to defend one’s home? THAT is the kind of thing we face every time we go to war, do not speak of things you do not understand.

    It is not violating the resol’nare what you are doing, but you are a hypocrite. You speak so highly of honor when you hide behind the holonet to spat out your disagreements with our leader. Warrior up and challenge him in the battle circle if you disagree. Otherwise you can shut your mouth and stop behaving like a coward.

  6. Arman T'ad
    May 6, 2013 at 8:08 AM

    While I may not necessarily agree with the exploitation of the plague, I agree that it was a necessary ending that saved more lives rather than allowing them to simply die off as the Prime Minister was more than willing to let happen to her people. I look forward to the next rally, It should be as rewarding, if not more so, as the last.

  7. confused mandalorian
    May 6, 2013 at 5:05 PM

    That is where you are wrong ‘ordo alor’ Because even losing has its honor. Winning at all costs is not a way we mandalorians do war anymore in fact most combatants we are likely to face currently (even Sith) dont fight at all costs to win anymore the last ones to do that were the yuuzhan vong or the Galactic Empire but they preferred fear tactics over extermination. And what a bad leader does from the other side of the galaxy, ruling a lowly planet of barely any importance is not our concern at all offering a cease fire to take care of wounded and sick in war is very common practice in the laws of war.

    We arent the feared crusaders of old anymore. We are elite soldiers who follow the supercommando codex. Engaging in chemical warfare even if indirect is something that jaster mereel would not have agreed with, im sure of that. Why do we even have this Woman, who has proven herself to be a bad leader, continue her reign as prime minister? Either expose her to the populace on what she has done and replace her or dont allow the mirials to self govern.

    As far as challenging the mandalore, no im afraid I wont do that, there are others out there more eager, willing and capable of doing that. But thank you for re-iterating my point, I cant at all express my opinions without having to seemingly challenge the mandalore. Anyway im sure someone will challenge him if more pointless wars get started. I and others are still waiting for mandalore to explain himself as to why he didnt step down when our ‘conflict’ with the Revenant armada was over.

    Or why we gained absolutely nothing / peanuts from our invasion of coruscant and fondor and even this war. What do we gain at all? Why did we invade them? Are we crusaders again? Perhaps that death watch blue armor he wears is more indicative of what we are turning into then perhaps considered before.

    Perhaps this is a good reminder that what he is doing is more Death watch / crusader like then Supercommando

    https://galacticnewssl.wordpress.com/2012/11/25/death-watch-reconquest-ambitions/

    • May 6, 2013 at 5:42 PM

      confused mandalorian :
      I and others are still waiting for mandalore to explain himself as to why he didnt step down when our ‘conflict’ with the Revenant armada was over.

      Truth.

      https://galacticnewssl.wordpress.com/2012/08/06/a-new-mandalore-a-new-war/

      “Already supported by most clans like Socarras, Dralshy’a, Skirata, Ordo, Mereel, Munit’kad and Kata, A’denla is sending a call to rally of all of the “Mando’ade” to fight the Revenant, a dangerous and worthy enemy to test the mettle of the Mandalorian people.”

      I’m shocked enough to see a Mandalorian with a brain that I’m actually gonna help out.

      https://galacticnewssl.wordpress.com/2012/08/26/mandalorians-capture-coruscant/

      “Today, our Taung ancestors watch from the side of Kad Har’angir down at us with pride. Today, you have reclaimed the sacred ground of our ancestors! And that isn’t all! You have brought every credit this planet has to offer into [our] hands! Our numbers will grow as well as our might, and our will as a people. Tonight, consider yourselves worthy of a few kegs of Ne’tra Gal! Oya!”

      Within a month of that call to arms, the Mandalore then used his powers to rally the -ians to attack and hold Coruscant, only to turn it over to the short-lived Galactic Empire (number 23945) while denying sith allegiances or ties.

      https://galacticnewssl.wordpress.com/2012/09/10/kulith-laan-named-as-emperor-on-a-unified-coruscant-as-mandalorian-forces-leave/

      According to GE23945, “The Mandalorians had occupied Coruscant on the basis that is was where their ideas had began with the Taung species a long time ago. They had then invited the Galactic Empire to come and help administer the planet. However, the mandalorians had presumably grown dissatisfied with the world as all traces of the Taung had been wiped away centuries ago and convincing trillions of inhabitants to give up their way of life to return to the old ways was a futile attempt. They agreed to hand all of Coruscant over to the Emperor in exchange for Fondor.”

      So the man rallies the Mandalorians for a war with the Revenant. He uses those forces instead to take and hold Coruscant for a fairly frivolous reason, only to hand the entire planet over to a group that put zero effort into its possession on the basis that “oops we thought it would have Taung artifacts but we were wrong. hey can we trade for that shipmake world?”

      D’aze Dan Con’fused here, in accusing the Mandalore of having a dishonorable track record, has something of a point.

    • May 7, 2013 at 11:07 AM

      If you have a disagreement with the leadership, that is how true mandalorians settle a dispute. Challenge in the battle circle. If you think the Mand’alor is a bad leader and can do better, then challenge him. We are whatever the current Mand’alor says we will be. If the Mandalor wishes to take the super commando codex and burn it, he can. If the Mand’alor wishes to return us to the crusades of old, he can. If the Mand’alor wishes to tell us we should all be shoveling osik then we shall do it. For he is the Mand’alor, and it is a mandalorian’s duty to obey. If you are too much a coward to challenge the Mand’alor, but want to whine anyway, that is entirely up to you, but you shame yourself to your clan and appear as a di’kut. You can whine for better leadership all you want, but the mandalorian way is to not whine, but stand up and do something about it. A Mand’alor steps down when he wishes to step down. There are plenty of Mand’alors in history that remained Mand’alor when there was no war, even if there were not, Mandalors throughout history have written, rewritten, and erased policies and rules a dozen times over. Why? Because they can. This is why the Mandalorians have bounced between siding with the Republic, the Empire, none of them, been weak, strong, warmondering, peaceful, etc ever since our culture was born. If you wish to complain about a war, and are unfit for battle, then perhaps you should send your armor in so an actual warrior can have it, and stop disgracing us with the osik that comes from the hole in your face.

      • Vox Cast
        May 7, 2013 at 1:38 PM

        … If the Mand’alor wishes to tell us to jump off a cliff and fall to our deaths, then we shall do it. If the Mand’alor wishes to tell us we should rape younglings, then we shall do it…

        Have these Mandalorians really become that moronic? I wonder if this a sign of how much inbreeding goes on?

      • Narise Enabi
        May 7, 2013 at 4:13 PM

        Since you won’t answer the question when posed by another mandalorian, then I’ll ask it. Why did you people invade the homeworld of my ancestors? Why are my cousins now being made to follow your directives?

        And a question of my own…what if unarmed Mirialans simply ignored you and refused to cooperate? Would you withhold the medical care? Would you start slaughtering my cousins? Or would you simply pack up and leave like you did on Coruscant?

        -Narise Enabi, expatriate Mirialan

      • Thull Kandosii
        May 9, 2013 at 3:02 PM

        It’s a concept named Loyalty. Our six actions direct us to follow the mand’alor until he is defeated or dies, within reason of course. And to my knowledge, he hasn’t given an order to the Clans that is irrational.

  8. Vurr
    May 7, 2013 at 10:34 AM

    It surely is uplifting to see that Mister Socarras doesn’t exceed my expectations; I’ve smelled the pungent odor of hypocrisy even on my vacation away from this mess. Fear no more citizens of the Galaxy and oppressed denizens of the Mandalorian-contested territories of space, help will surely be on the way.

  9. confused mandalorian
    May 7, 2013 at 4:24 PM

    Most of us mandalorians would not accept a lowly ve’verd to take over leadership and it would take an Alor or an Alor’ad to do that without causing power struggles over the title. And I don’t claim to be the leadership we need. So I will refrain from doing so. But I was born with a mouth or be it hands since that is how I am spreading this message. Perhaps I should emphasize that I have been in war and in battle even in this di’kutla war. So I do not know where you are getting this ‘unfit for battle’ osik from. Perhaps just an attempt to slander my name. And we were having, well I guess it was mostly one sided such a lovely argument without the insults and reductions of character.

    And uh I think your insuations that Mandalore can drive us to be Death watch wont fall on popular ears but I have indeed made a mental note of how you don’t think for yourself. Granted I know about you Ordo alor and while you try to slander my albeit screen name you obviously aren’t fit to rule your clan. You are like what? 18? 20ish? lower 20’s Thats great kid, only finished your verd’goten less then a decade ago and already leading a clan, not sure who put you incharge or if you pinned a badge on yourself and painted a mythosaur on your shoulder but you are not even half my age yet and think that you are spouting the wisdom of an elder that has passed his fiftys or sixtys.

    • May 8, 2013 at 1:08 PM

      confused mandalorian :
      it was mostly one sided such a lovely argument without the insults and reductions of character.

      Yeah, you tell him! Insults and reductions of character are for people who can’t even argue!

      confused mandalorian :
      you obviously aren’t fit to rule your clan. You are like what? 18? 20ish? lower 20′s Thats great kid, only finished your verd’goten less then a decade ago and already leading a clan, not sure who put you incharge or if you pinned a badge on yourself and painted a mythosaur on your shoulder but you are not even half my age yet and think that you are spouting the wisdom of an elder that has passed his fiftys or sixtys.

      Oh wait.

    • Thull Kandosii
      May 9, 2013 at 3:03 PM

      The Ordo’Alor was simply giving you an education on the culture since you seem to lack it, ‘Confused Mandalorian’. There is no confusion to be had; The Resol’nare is there, we follow it, or we’re Dar’manda. If you find her unfit to lead her clan, perhaps you should seek her out and face her yourself, but you won’t. You’ll simply show off the same level of cowardice you have been since your first comment. I don’t even think you can be a Mandalorian with how foolish you are acting, you’re simply posing as one to try and annoy the rest of us maybe?

      • confused mandalorian
        May 9, 2013 at 6:45 PM

        the resol’nare is quite simple to follow and if you did read you would know that I do follow it. However questioning the mandalore or actions of other alor is not against the resol’nare or supercommando codex

      • confused mandalorian
        May 9, 2013 at 8:18 PM

        but feel free to correct me if you think that I broke the resol’nare. As I said before I have been on Mirial and other previous engagements. But questioning our leaders actions and behaviour is not something the resol’nare nor the Supercommando codex forbids. Infact it is our duty as honorable warriors to uphold our leader to higher standards if he is not able to do so himself (since he should be the one we look up to as an example)

        If he still doesn’t listen to reason then we remove him, as was tried before by other mandalorians. But again it is not cowardice that prevents me from challenging him it is the fact that I am not afraid to admit that I would not be a good leader or a leader that would be accepted seeing as I am a ‘nobody’ among some of the more well known mandalorians. The clans most likely would not listen to me, and my wish is not to fragment the clans while they squabble and fight over the title.

        My wish and my hope is that Mandalore changes his bahaviour and fulfills his empty and broken promise(s) and if he cant then he should step down. We do not need a mandalore as we are not at war with anyone. Wars started by Mandalore himself (and not forced by other parties) to keep his grasp onto his power would be a stupid thing to keep his claim of power on.

  10. Haran
    May 7, 2013 at 6:54 PM

    I see a man with no honor taking advantage of a dishonorable solution and exploiting it and others to achieve his personal glory, THAT is NOT the Mandalorian Way, and every damned one of you who claims to call yourselves Mandalorian yet blindly follow a fool…

    … If the Mand’alor wishes to tell us to jump off a cliff and fall to our deaths, then we shall do it. If the Mand’alor wishes to tell us we should rape younglings, then we shall do it…
    Have these Mandalorians really become that moronic? I wonder if this a sign of how much inbreeding goes on?

    One of the major teachings of the Resol’nare is to do what is best for your clan, and anyone who wants to say that sitting back and using a biological agent to win a war for you is no warrior least of all a mandalorian warrior, you all say that if we disagree we should challenge Mand’alor, why didn’t the high and might Mand’alor offer a challenge to the ruler and simply set the terms that should he win the duel then the world is his if he loses then withdraws his forces.

    I have lived the life of a soldier my entire life, served in countless battles and had my nose bloodied more than once, so yes there is honor in losing it is the matter of stepping into that fight with your head held high, win or lose that you can claim honor in the end.

    And if the rest of you weren’t brainwashed fools blinding following an imbecile then the rest of you would see it too. and if Mand’alor wants to fight me then let him grow a backbone and put forth the challenge himself, any true leader worth their salt would have no issue putting out a challenge to anyone who disagrees with him and let the way of the warrior decide who is right or wrong…

  11. Protector Commander Brave
    May 7, 2013 at 8:32 PM

    Jaster Mereel has been dead for 300 years. The Mandalorians do not need the supercommando codex any more. It was for a time when Mandalorians were few and needed mercenary and bounty hunter work to survive without resorting to brutal raiding and piracy. The Death Watch were fine with being raiders and pirates and objected. Jaster died, The Death Watch Died, the Super commandos died. The Mando protectors were founded by 3 Mandalorians, 100 Mandalorian police, and a dozen ex- Death Watch. The Mandalorians have risen in numbers since the Yuuzhan Vong War, we’ve expanded our ranks, rebuilt our space and armada. The Mandalorians are no longer a small nomadic group of mercenaries and bounty hunters, and it is stupid to insist on continuing to enforce a document introduced by a single Mand’alor who died during a civil war with no traditional backing or connection as to why it should continue to be praised as if it’s the end all be all of Mandalorian life. times have changed, and the super commando codex is not the resol’nare, it’s not the canons of honor and doesnt deserve the praise and admiration everyone gives it.

    The Mandalorians have changed, times have changed, it’s time to stop using the super commando codex as a crutch to justify inaction and stagnation

    • A True Mandalorian
      May 12, 2013 at 11:50 PM

      Then how do you justify biological weapons and attacking weak worlds all for the sake of your boredom? The Cabur was built based on the ideals and teachings of the Supercommando Codex yet you so willingly ignore these on your claims of inaction and stagnation. Yet now the Mandalore expends resources and manpower in his vain grabs for power and glory by throwing away the lives of his people in wars without meaning other then the acquisition of more resources and more land. What’s next, will you start taking slaves and conscripting conquered people into the Mandalorians as soldiers to further the goals of domination?

      • Protector Commander Brave
        May 13, 2013 at 12:42 AM

        Your Bias is obvious to anyone “True Mandalorian” Firstly. There was No Biological attack. And anyone claiming this is does not know the Mandalorians at all. The Karatos plague broke out again, Do you think Any of us would have spread it to Onderon? Do you think Mandalore sees any honor in having an enemy surrender because otherwise they will all die of plague? What Glory is in that, “True” Mandalorian? What Honor is there in that? There is none. The Mandalorian warriors who were at the front were dissapointed the plague came, it cut short their battle, and denied them the glory of final victory in said battle. Something every Mandalorian Warrior is trained from birth to live for.

        This is the facts, The Kranatos plague got into contact with peoples not immunized to it, and it struck at their unaccustomed immune systems, people died and the only people who had the cure were the Mandalorians. I’m sure the cure could be found again outside of the clans, but the Mirialians would be fighting while many of them were dying of sickness, and the Mandalorians would not have given quarter to them merely because of this. As long as they continued to fight, the Mandalorians would have annihilated them. The plague was not the doing of the Mandalorians no, but it is a blessing to our enemies, who now will survive, and suffer far fewer casualties as a result of their capitulation. This does not benefit the Mandalorians as they would have won anyway. It benefits only the Mirialians

        And as for calling the Mirialians weak, you know nothing of them. They make great pilots and Jedi, they can use the powers of the Jedi to an extent and have tamed an inhospitable frozen world. They are zealous, and strong and a worthy adversary. To call them weak is to insult both the Mandalorians and the Mirialians both. They were no match for us, obviously but simply because we could win does not mean they are weak or that we should not have attacked, The truth is, you don’t know why we conquered Mirial and Mandalore does not have to justify it to you, as he’s already justified it to the clans who followed him into the battle.

        You claim the Super Commando Codex ideals are the basis for the Mandalorian Protectors, and you are partially correct. The Mandalorian Protectors though are not the front line of the Mandalorians, we are the protectors of Mandalorian space, we are the guardians of the Mandalorian infrastructure and people and we are the Law on Mandalore. But even the Cabur’e are based upon the Ideals of Jaster Mereels true Mandalorians, and Super-commandos. All Mandalorians are Not Cabur’e, nor are they Super-commandos. It is you who cling to the past. The basic ideas that were part of the codex, honor, discipline, military structure and order, chain of command, all of these are the basics of the Protectors, and the Basics of the Ori’ramikade. But aside from the most basic visible principles we know from history no one knows what is actually in the Supercommando Codex, There is not a single intact recording, replication, or file of it anywhere that’s been able to be recovered. No one knows what the Codex says,

        So how can you claim that the Mandalorians have abandoned this document which should and does not in any way bind any Mandalorians except the Cabur’e and the Ori’ramikade themselves, when no one even knows what the blasted thing even says? The Protectors have their own codex now, And you’ve yet to answer the question as to why the Codex is so important still?

        Were all Mandalorians that came before the Codex dishonorable filth? Were they all murdering conquerors who had no sense of honor or pride? Do you call the great Mandalores and Clan Elders going back thousands of years cowards for fighting for honor and glory? For going from world to world and testing their might against the greatest the galaxy had to offer?

        Your words betray the truth “True Mandalorian” You are nothing but a coward who would sit and hide away at the center of Mandalorian space wasting away on the jobs thrown your way by the Hutts, or the Sith or the Jedi, while the Mandalorians died of old age, boredom, and in fighting until they were reduced to the pitiful number that made Jaster write the codex, and allowed a war that allowed the “New Mandalorians” To take Mandalore Prime. This is the kind of “golden era” you are romanticizing when you moan and cry about how we’re turning our backs on the True Mandalorians and how great the codex is and Jaster Mereel was a bloody Saint.

        The Mandalores of Recent memory have offered the Mandalorians so much more than to live off the scraps the rest of the galaxy lets slip and being the hitmen and muscle of crime lords and Imperial warlords.

        The Mandalorians deserve a greater place in the galaxy than being relegated to the shells of men wearing the armor of a broken race. Those are your “True Ways” And I for one, would rather be the Commander of Protectors that stretch across a hegemony of worlds, than be one that patrols small cantina on some backwater

      • A True Mandalorian
        May 13, 2013 at 12:31 PM

        A likely story indeed. A sheer accident they happened to hit planets that Mandalorians currently cluster on or attack. Yes anyone with an open mind and their head not currently burried up the glorious leader’s sheb. Don’t ever question him or you will find yourself on the outside looking in with those you once called vode muttering around the words dar’manda.

        And yes, I would rather live by the ways of a Codex most don’t fully understand just because they can’t tangibly decipher it. But the basis was to live as honorable mercenaries instead of barbaric Crusaders throwing away thousands of lives in an endless quest for more. More land, more resources, more power. These are the ways of the Sith, not the Mandalorians. But maybe that’s what we should expect out of this glorious leader when he consorts with Sith and the likes of Byss.

        You may call me a coward, and that’s your right. But I call myself a traditionalist. I will preserve my way of life for my family and future generations. If I wanted to be a tactless heathen beating down the doors of those who stand in the way of my expansionist goals, I would have joined the Empire, or Death Watch.

        While you command your protectors as they stretch thinner and thinner with each new world or civil disobedience on these conquered worlds of yours, enjoy the benefits until you’re down to standing off a mob with the bare pickings of your ranks.

    • confused mandalorian
      May 13, 2013 at 5:16 AM

      Part of what you say is true but to say that our people arent being forced to be mercenaries and bounty hunters, doing jobs for the hutts, bounty hunters guild, roaming the galaxy in space ships following odd job after odd job is simply just not true. I see it happen more often then not. The death watch are still around and they oppose the codex. They dont oppose the resol’nare aside from the fact that they wish to kill mandalore, put their own mandalore up and then tear the codex apart to turn us into warmongering crusaders again. Granted out mandalore is doing a great job of doing that on his own. Maybe it was meant as a snide remark but when the death watch starts compliment our leader on what he does then maybe we are doing something wrong hmm?

      There are plenty of real challenges left in this galaxy, in our own star cluster and around its borders but instead mandalore keeps insisting on expanding through war. We lost a lot of resources for nothing on Fondor and Coruscant and got nothing out of it. (or scraps that dont even refund the cost of war like the one in fondor) I dont even know why Mirial was picked. It doesn’t have much in the terms of strategic placement, resources or manpower (especially since the queen was forced into a peace treaty, something im sure is despised by her people regardless of the plague going on) We have to waste all these resources and manpower keeping the population and revolts down that we have no real way of stopping should the general populace of these planets rise up (short of comitting genocide / making the planet uninhabitable)

      Plenty of planets in the mandalore sector are under developed, uncolonized or lacking in something. So are the sectors and planets that surround our piece of space. Yet these are left untouched by our leader and only the clans seem to take advantage of that occasionally (I saw the GNN post about Imari using werda for something, a prime example of a planet left untouched but with resources. They got lucky and got minerals out of it but im sure the ice could be shipped to worlds such as concord dawn (lots of areas without water and areas that only have desert), Nog (a hot planet), tracyn (volcanic planet), kalevala. And thats just in our own sector. What I am trying to say is, is that plenty of worlds and moons in our sector are left untouched, underdeveloped but have plenty of oppertunities for colonization and exploitation.

  12. A True Mandalorian
    May 9, 2013 at 2:39 PM

    The ways of the True Mandalorians have fallen to the less conventional and honorable ways of our Crusader ancestry. In this war of conquest, I am ashamed to be linked to those involved in this cowardly act and will continue to distance myself along with those that still hold true to our ways from this change in ideals.

  13. Thull Kandosii
    May 12, 2013 at 12:41 PM

    He has done well to lead us so far. He drove the Death Watch from our lands, established trade to augment our income, and has yet to suffer a defeat at enemy hands. If this isn’t what makes a leader in your eyes, then I shudder to think what would be.

    • Vurr
      May 13, 2013 at 1:02 PM

      What ‘Death Watch’ might this be? Those who follow Mister Socarras -are- Death Watch; they want to reform back to the times of the crusader. Surely you know this, so your leader simply drove off people just like you and him as the scapegoat of all evil.

  14. Protector Commander Brave
    May 13, 2013 at 3:58 PM

    A True Mandalorian :
    A likely story indeed. A sheer accident they happened to hit planets that Mandalorians currently cluster on or attack. Yes anyone with an open mind and their head not currently burried up the glorious leader’s sheb. Don’t ever question him or you will find yourself on the outside looking in with those you once called vode muttering around the words dar’manda.
    And yes, I would rather live by the ways of a Codex most don’t fully understand just because they can’t tangibly decipher it. But the basis was to live as honorable mercenaries instead of barbaric Crusaders throwing away thousands of lives in an endless quest for more. More land, more resources, more power. These are the ways of the Sith, not the Mandalorians. But maybe that’s what we should expect out of this glorious leader when he consorts with Sith and the likes of Byss.
    You may call me a coward, and that’s your right. But I call myself a traditionalist. I will preserve my way of life for my family and future generations. If I wanted to be a tactless heathen beating down the doors of those who stand in the way of my expansionist goals, I would have joined the Empire, or Death Watch.
    While you command your protectors as they stretch thinner and thinner with each new world or civil disobedience on these conquered worlds of yours, enjoy the benefits until you’re down to standing off a mob with the bare pickings of your ranks.

    It’s not Coincidence at all that where Mandalorians cluster to attack the plague spreads to, it originated from Concord Dawn, and spread to the Mandalorian sector, and the Mandalorians are immunized to it early on, but still can carry it. Since it doesnt show up in Mandos, there’s no way of knowing it’s being carried until you look, and there’s no reason to suspect it has. So Mandalorians unwittingly carried it to Mirial, Onderon and any other planet they go to that they’re carrying it becomes infected with it. It’s tragic, but it’s not intentional, and your conspiracy theorist paranoia combined with your clinging to the past and accusing the Mandalorians of being bloodthirsty monsters and crusaders shows you aren’t a traditionalist at all, you’re a gods damn new mandalorian, a pacifist coward.

    • A True Mandalorian
      May 14, 2013 at 12:24 AM

      Now you’re just being petty and small minded Commander. For shame. I am not a coward for I stand up for what I believe in and will fight for my way of life to be preserved. And if that means fighting the likes of you and the rest of A’denla’s puppets then so be it. So go, go and kiss the boot of your overlord like a good narrow minded tool. The True Mandalorians will rise again and reclaim what has been tainted by this new reign.

      • Protector Commander Brave
        May 15, 2013 at 12:30 PM

        Then why do you say these things over the Holonet instead of face to face? If you truly stood up for what you believed in, you would come say this my face, or A’denla’s face, You’d personally be leading the charge, or you’d challenge A’denla for Mand’alor if you think what he’s doing is wrong.

      • Hoggil
        May 15, 2013 at 1:21 PM

        hi

  15. confused mandalorian
    May 13, 2013 at 6:58 PM

    Protector Commander Brave :
    The Mandalores of Recent memory have offered the Mandalorians so much more than to live off the scraps the rest of the galaxy lets slip and being the hitmen and muscle of crime lords and Imperial warlords.

    I dont know about that. Niv dralshya was one of the worst. None of the recent mandalores come to mind when I think noticable changes. Jaster mereel actually tried to improve our society and did. Even if a lot of the changes he implemented or wanted to implement came about after his death. A recent mandalore that tried (in my eyes anyway) was Tyro but all he did was maintain peace and status quo between the clans and the clanless. Afterwards the council and the disruptive effect of clan socarras and dralshya on our society basically splintered the clans and left the clanless apparently without honor. Their big mouth other then the lacking tactical and strategic knowledge of war by our mandalore is the biggest threat to us all.

    • Protector Commander Brave
      May 15, 2013 at 12:37 PM

      Jaster Mereel did nothing to improve Mandalorian society than to make it officially and written down OK to be a mercenary and bounty hunter, which Mandalorians had been for centuries before, and made it unnacceptable to be a raiding thug or pirate, which true Mandalorians thought was dishonorable anyway. It also caused Mandalorian numbers to be reduced and Mandalorian space to be rendered almost non existent.

      I see you are truly confused, because none of the things you describe happened the way you claim. Those who drift clanless are on their own, ver’verd. It is a less honorable position than one who has a clan because they have no clan to fight for, no family to support. Dralshy’a never splintered the clans, it was the one or two who refused to fight that claim to do that, the influences of cowards that later turned away from the call to either suck up to their Sith masters or hold onto the teat of the Bakuran Royal Family that turned away. And as long as they did not actively interfere or fight against the rest of the Mandalorians, No one bothered them. What do you know about tactical or strategic knowledge of War? A’denla has won every war he’s fought in.

      I was at Coruscant, we won without effort, I was at Fondor and we got exactly what we set out to get. Control of their shipyards. We Won on Mirial, the Death Watch have been defeated every time they pop up, So what lacking of strategic or tactical knowledge are you talking about?

      • confused mandalorian
        May 16, 2013 at 12:38 PM

        I was at coruscant too. We didn’t ‘win’ anything. the weakminded chancellor at the time surrendered. The only battle there was when we invaded the senate rotunda, not particularly an exciting or hard battle.

        You say we won in all those places but in the end we were left with nothing. We do not control coruscant or fondor. We traded coruscant for fondor but in the end we still had to fight for fondor and we got what was it? a small portion of the shipyards excluded for our use for 6 months? That we had to pay for and provide resources to, to even use them. How exactly is that winning. We couldve accomplished the use of Fondors shipyards or even those on kuat, corellia or any other major ship production world by just negotiating with a major shipbuilding corporation (such as kuat drive yards) or planetary government. We would not have lost any men, we would not have lost any ships, we would not have lost any equipment, we would not have lost anything else except for credits.

        So much for strategic or tactical knowledge

        We ‘won’ on mirial because the government was forced to surrender due to a biological virus active on the planet. You know if I was mandalore I would’ve been a bit more honorable in that war. Provided a temporary cease fire that is overseen by a neutral third party if need be so that cures and vaccines can be shipped to the planet, with the third party providing inspections of crafts with the cures and vaccines and then overseen by our own forces to make sure weapons and such arent present on these vessels

        Again So much for strategic or tactical knowledge

        As far as the death watch go, if we truly did defeat them, why do they keep coming back? Perhaps there are no death watch around right now because we are acting like death watch crusaders and they are simply among our ranks, wearing their armor and Death watch blue without their symbols.

        Again so much for strategic or tactical knowledge

        Your interpertation of ver’verd is wrong also, unless you are calling the mandalorians who make a living outside of the clans dishonorable. I personally would not, they are doing their part in whatever they do (be it farmer, miner, bureaucrat, nerf herder, moisture farmer, bantha milker)
        I have met many ver’verd in my time and most of them consider their family members their clan and care for such.

        But if they lose their family or their clan if you will. For whichever reason that might be, then as long as they provided and cared for their family and clan in the past they will have obeyed the resol’nare enough in my eyes.

        Anyway strategical and tactical would be in my eyes to expand along our borders, not half way across the galaxy. Supply lines and fleet movements to protect assets too far from our home would be a disaster to defend and would leave either the planet we conquered underdefended or our precious homes. Fondor was a prime example of that, its a planet on the southern part of the colonies along the Rimma trade route, while we are connected to the hydian way up north. Coruscant is a similar issue albeit that it is half the distance fondor is from us.

        Again so much for strategic or tactical knowledge.

        Perhaps our dear leader would do well to read the chronicles of our great war with the republic and see the worlds they attacked, the lines they made (or planets if you will) to try and reach coruscant

    • Hoggil
      May 15, 2013 at 1:22 PM

      hello

  16. confused mandalorian
    May 16, 2013 at 1:06 PM

    You are really grasping at straws here if you consider Coruscant, Fondor and Mirials wins for us. Ill break it down here for you.

    1. Coruscant was not ‘won’ we stormed the senate rotunda and defeated a couple of royal guards and jedi and then forced the Chancellor to surrender the planet. After that we held the planet for a while before turning it over to an Empire faction for fondor, which hasn’t been seen since. Odd but maybe that is why Fondor didn’t turn out to be the price we thought it was. It wasn’t so much a war as a skirmish, if you look at events after we handed it over to the empire then you will see that they

    Not exactly a strategic or tactical knowledge

    2. Fondor. We traded it for coruscant from an Empire group but somehow got caught up in heavy fighting with all kinds of rebel groups. The planet, despite being blockaded by our forces had groups like the GLA slip past. In the end peace was signed but the only thing we gained was exclusive rights to a small group of shipyards on fondor that we still had to pay and supply for a period of what was it? six months or so? something we couldve achieved for a faction of the credits, lifes, equipment lost in the battles. lets not even talk about the circumstances behind the gained peace. (as it was signed when the imperials were being kicked out of coruscant and the odds were starting to turn against us, henche the poor peace deal we got. We got lucky that we actually got anything at all there)

    Again Not exactly a strategic or tactical knowledge.

    3. Mirial. If you think that forcing the enemy to surrender because our Mandalore doesn’t have the honor to call for a ceasefire so that cures and vaccines can be delivered to safe the populace then I have some dark blue paint and a brush for you to repaint your armor, be sure not to forget the logo. Im sure a neutral third party would not have minded to oversee the transports with us to make sure that they only contain the cures and vaccines to combat the plague

    Again Not exactly a strategic or tactical knowledge

    4. As far as Death watch goes, they always keep coming back, and perhaps their voices have been silenced right now as they mingle among our ranks due to our recent crusader-esque actions. Perhaps they feel (actually I know they feel since vurr said it himself) that our new found actions are befitting of the title death watch.

    If you want to know my idea of strategical / tactical knowledge perhaps our mandalore should try creating supply lines and conquer worlds of significance around our own sector, gradually expanding the lines to where we want to go. Crossing half the galaxy to reach fondor is not something that is desirable or smart, we are all the way north in the hydian way while fondor is in the far southern colonies along the rimma trade route. Sending our forces half way across the galaxy leaves our home exposed and then sending back forces from Fondor had we actually conquered it leaves that exposed. For coruscant a similar story albeit it is roughly half the distance that fondor is from planet mandalore.

    Perhaps looking at the chronicles of wars we fought 4000 years ago and how we expanded our lines, taking planets around us and spreading around influential worlds around us is something that he might find very educational and would teach him a thing or two about conducting a proper war with supply lines and all.

  17. Akaan'tal Vau
    May 17, 2013 at 5:09 PM

    Look at you all. Arguing over the holonet. If you feel so strongly against what’s going on, stand up and challenge A’denla for the mask. Be a Mandalorian for once in your life. You claim that he is leading us back to being Crusaders and not following our ways? You piss on your family name by not standing up and making a challenge to what is going on. Perhaps you need to be taught again about who and what we are. As you see, my name is blatantly shown so as not to hide who I am like a coward.

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